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Subzero (SSR/SR)
Subzero (SSR/SR)
4 years ago
Bilbs
Reply to  Subzero (SSR/SR)
4 years ago

oooh OKS Import Division goodness. I’m voting for all three πŸ™‚

T.I.M.
Reply to  Subzero (SSR/SR)
4 years ago

2 new Redrum-tros are ready – gehen in KΓΌrze raus an Musashi πŸ™‚

sachy
sachy
4 years ago

Great looking one also sounding nice too. Tasty stuff!

Zebpro
4 years ago

Great design, I like all of it, especially that very good remix!!!! πŸ˜€

Annatar
Annatar
4 years ago

Really nice design… and a “Comic Bakery” remix by whom?

The Cedex, France address was that of PaRaDoX, was it not?

Bilbs
4 years ago

Quality product, long after I had left the Amiga behind too. Always loved this tune…

WayneK
4 years ago

TRZ’s reign was really after I had left Amiga for PC, but Troops/TRZ supplied many games to us on that platform too πŸ™‚
Nice simple intro, nothing special but definitely nothing to complain about!

-TCB!-
4 years ago

This must have been one of the last releases under that label — soon after Prestige was born!

Annatar
Annatar
Reply to  -TCB!-
4 years ago

PRESTiGE was the first thought I had when I saw “Troops & Troll”! Even the design is similar to that of PRESTiGE intros.

-TCB!-
Reply to  Annatar
4 years ago

Or even the mongols / hamsters references were already there… I always wondered whether T&T were that good/fast or the competition dried up and they had a monopoly for UK?

WayneK
Reply to  -TCB!-
4 years ago

I think the latter (lack of competition) by this stage – that’s not to say anything bad about them, but most groups had either lost their centresoft/magazine connections due to lack of interest/money, or simply weren’t as obsessed about it anymore (eg: they might ‘wake up’ for a major release, but not the average game).

Annatar
Annatar
Reply to  WayneK
4 years ago

You as the old UK cracker, what was the way you guys mostly obtained originals over there?

I feel that you (plural) had the unfair advantage in the ’80’s as most game software companies were headquartered in the UK, so you were local to the source of originals. For example, I believe that is why IKARI + TALENT were #1, for they could get the originals faster and sooner than anyone else.

Phantasm
Phantasm
Reply to  Annatar
4 years ago

I was a bit late to the party and there wasn’t a huge amount of competition not like in the early 90’s but we had various supply channels over the years. A guy working in a packing factory and A guy working in a shop were the more active ones we had but that was around 94 onwards.

WayneK
Reply to  Phantasm
4 years ago

Not so different from earlier, a lot of games came from people working in computer shops since the c64 days πŸ™‚ Amiga groups got a bit more organised, and when the competition got more fierce games were picked up directly from the distributors (Centresoft in Birmingham, another one I forget… Pinnacle maybe? something like that) and sent (or sometimes hand-delivered) directly to the cracker. Distributor accounts were ‘borrowed’ from various sources (shops, foreign ‘buyers’ eg: Free Kuwait sysop), this became harder as Centresoft stopped shipping single copies, so groups had to order multiple copies just to crack a game –… Read more »

Annatar
Annatar
Reply to  -TCB!-
4 years ago

They pretty much had no competition by that stage, however any PRESTiGE cracks I had did not have any issues, so the quality was there at least.

I always kind of thought PRESTiGE was Polish because of Mok & Samir, as the two were the only ones I constantly saw in their cracks…?

What was the deal with hamster and mongol references I wonder…

-TCB!-
Reply to  Annatar
4 years ago

Samir was from Switzerland. Prestige did have some other Polish members but they were (mostly) traders/couriers. There were quite a few in Poland as they had found a great workaround for phreaking and they were probably the pioneers of script-trading. Ufok comes to mind (top uploaded to quite a number of European boards back in those days).

Annatar
Annatar
Reply to  -TCB!-
4 years ago

Confoederato Helvetica is cool in that way since the law states that it’s not illegal to copy, only to distribute. How did script trading work?

-TCB!-
Reply to  Annatar
4 years ago

It was a script you could load on Ncomm (if I remember correctly) that would dial a designated list of boards in your phonebook, scrolled the uploads directory in a given conference, download files that were ‘new’ (I.e. that the script did not have listed yet) and then attempts to upload all the files in your download folder. The BBS would skip existing files and only accept new files. File ID extraction and background-checking and posting (a functionality most boards had by then) would make sure the new files were available immediately to users on other nodes. Upload completed, log… Read more »

-TCB!-
Reply to  Annatar
4 years ago

And yes, as widely known, Mok was from Poland.

Blackhawk
4 years ago

Really simple, but still massive in it’s presentation. You have no doubt that there are great groups behind it. πŸ™‚

SToRM
Reply to  Blackhawk
4 years ago

agreed

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